Can Kenya Be “Dubai-iefied”?
I just finished reading this great article in Fortune magazine about how Dubai is expanding it’s global reach beyond it’s borders and it’s doing it in poor, third world countries. What caught my attention were some of the countries it has selected: Djibouti and Rwanda. Huh?? (Full article here: Camels, Gorilla’s and skyscrappers)
Basically, the government of Djibout (which is really French Somalia) has given away free land or land at very low prices to businessmen from Dubai and it’s asked them to use the land to develop whatever it is they want. This concept is called Dubai World and the Djiboutians (is that what they call themselves?) are essentially asking them to turn Djibouti into a mini -Dubai. This emirate island is now investing $800 million dollars into freaking Djibouti!
The same thing is happening in Rwanda. According to the article: “After hearing bin Sulayem speak at an East African economic forum in Djibouti two years ago, Rwandan President Paul Kagame became convinced that Dubai was the model he should try to replicate – essentially buying the premise that high-end tourism can jump-start an economy. After a year of lobbying by Rwandan officials, bin Sulayem visited last October. A week later Dubai World agreed to invest $230 million. A week after that, engineers, architects, and planners started arriving”.
This is really what Kenya should be doing, but it’s never going to happen now or ever because if these new constitutional changes are made into law, we are going to end up with five mini-dictators who’ are going to spend the next five years arguing and fighting about everything and in the end, nothing will ever get done.
That’s why you need one powerful president who can make quick decisions and move things along. This business of Prime ministers and deputy’s to the deputy’s and vice-presidents and deputy vice-presidents and I don’t know what, is not going to work.
Some have ironically mentioned that Kenya will no longer have an opposition since everyone is now essentially working for the same government! What is “democracy” without an opposition? And who are the voters going to blame in 2012 if things don’t work out? Raila is going to blame Kibaki; Kibaki will turn around and say that Raila is also part of the government, so blame him as well; the vice-president will blame the two deputy PM’s and, and, and, and….
Hi. I hope that Investments in Kenya increase from everywhere…from Kenyans themselves, Americans, Chinese..other African countries.
I must admit that I was a bit hesitant about the whole prime minister thing.. but I must say that now the deal has been signed…its a bit of a relief. No one can predict what will happen now..but at least hopefully we will not be so polarized. All we can do is pray and hope that the Tenth Parliament will be responsible ( am I hoping for too much
and really work on the constitution, may the ECK and Judiciary become respectable independent institutions so the fracas with elections, fighting corruption, criminals like Mungiki will be a thing of the past..or at least alot better than now.
I am planning on relocating to Kenya this year..and the thought of not having a country to go back to was really distressing. The thought of my my family living in a country I would not want to go to made my heart heavy.
So…peace right now is what I hope will prevail…the strucutures necessary to maintain the peace, provide justice for all, laws ensuring hate speech, actions will be illegalized is the only way that can guarantee Kenyans really can live anywhere in Kenya without fearing who wil be in State house..or Kept out.
Peace is the only way Dubai, chinese, and our own Kenyans will invest in Kenya and provide the necessary economic growth to grow enough for all Kenyans to feel and and hence provide a sence of security and respect for the government and its institutions and our fellow brothers and sisters.
KE, with this return to moism, highly doubtful in the next 50 years. But then again, what do you expect with the people who brought down Rome laying siege to development? One thing the education system hereonout MUST address is economics. I don’t care if you’re arts- or science-oriented, you need to understand that it takes more than 5 years, in the current global climate, and the country’s history, to see development that reaches everyone. You also need to understand why socialism has not had contemporary success on this continent. Only then will people stop being western power lackeys/crybabies, and understand what true independence entails.
And we all know nothing will move in the ‘new’ government, and that Raila will do his usual crying (like he did when he was public works minister). Lakini not to worry, si mtoto alililia wembe tuka mpa?
Then again, maybe that $23 million from the US won’t end up in deep pockets but will instead build that mombasa-malaba dual carriage highway, the bypasses, and oh… Africom (then what will become of the MOU with the Muslims?)
Pnkatha:
Why did you decide to move back to Kenya and what are you going to do once you get there? just curious…
I see kenya ports authority got funding to build bew terminal for 16 billion shillings. i thought that was huge, just to read about dubai building an 800 billion dollar port in djibouti
I guess some members of this blog have been right all thru, maybe you dont need democracy to do well. These arabs have been ruled by the same family for almost 200 years and their story is well known when it comes to human rights and slavery and tippu tip?
Some guys (i believe , kuwaitis) had offered two years ago, to carry out some similar projects in lamu, If am not wrong, t’was an airport, fibre cable line and toll road to garissa&NE,free-port: AG wako cautioned kenyans but Kibz , I think told them to bring it on! Somebody , remember am not sure what happened?
I think we have to be cautious though as we do the deals! The politics will be the problem, Kibaki wants chai, Mdavadi inghoko , Raila ugali orders ,then kalonzo muthokoi, somebody said too many cooks !… lucy will slap somebody again?. Seen a circus lately?
But don’t get me wrong, entreprenuers will seize the momentum, that spirit was awakened and the economic momentum maybe hard to stop in kenya.
Actually am soon joining Pnkatha?
RAZOR,
The Kuwait deal is stuck because the government want some sort of control and profit sharing but he Kuwaitis just want to pay taxes and create huge employment opportunities. But I am with the government,Lamu is not a special economic zone(read China) to let foreigners fully take over our territories. Some MOU is needed here.
On another note – seeing as you havent blogged about the Kenya deal that was signed, considering your usual promptness shows that you think your side lost. Sorry Mate after spreading all that hate. A good thing though is that Kalonzo is offering to resettle the IDPs in Ukambani – so a WIN WIN on all fronts.
Does there have to be peace for business and development to flourish in Kenya? It seems to me that many in the west will rush to the less developed nations when they are paid enough, and when the money dries up they pull out. What about passion for the project in hand. Water, clean, and for everyone on the planet, is my passion. Never mind that we are about to have more water than we can do with in terms of the melting ice poles. Katall told me that my project will not work if I do not involve the local people, they need the wherewithall to manufacture and design the tools for getting the water to the surface and also they need to be taught the rudiments of desalination and filteration of water. This is a question of putting local water in the hands of local people and not having big business take the water and sell it to the posh hotels around the world under the lable of cloud juice, or any other exotic name, selling at £29 pounds a bottle. Fuji water sells at an even higher price and the cost to the panet in terms of carbon build up is off the scale. Keep it local? I dont know, because my business colleagues go all over the place seeking opportunities and the local people thrive on this.
But of course the ideal leader is not even a democratic president but a benevolent dictator with the brilliance of such leaders as of Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore or Mustafa Kemal Atatürk of Turkey and the ethics of Nyerere.
I am find the article interesting … and considering the large number of Kenyan business people investing in Rwanda, I’m curious how their role in the transfiguration of Rwanda may (happily, optimistically) spill over to Kenya perhaps?!?
I am briefly relocating to Rwanda to work on some business training projects. I have been offered a good package. These guys are serious. As a Kiuk I am now very apprehensive about where i will invest my profits.
I am seriously thinking of buying some gold and diamonds and placing them in a safe deposit box. I can then be using that as collateral. I was thinking of buying some land in Eldy and really doing it up. But I will not do so now or in the very near future coz I dont want my money to go up in flames. Its their loss.
Anyway, life continues and no retreat or surrender.
QUESTION-
I have a “Keep it real” question. How come Kyuks seem to be somehow smarter when it comes to entrepreneurship.Even with Nyayo era “check ‘em”philosophy most still prospered.I wonder what would have happend if a Kyuk was prezzo for all those wasted years. Not to put anyone else down (I ain’t even a Kyuk)
Kyuks are over the world. I went to Japan and found them owning homes and car dealerships…amazing. Whats their business success secret?…
MZEIYA,KE and the rest……any response????
Having been to Dubai since before it was such a hot location, I think Kenya has even more potential than Dubai in the long term. Kenya is a naturally beautiful country. We have incredible beaches, wildlife, mountains, vistas, the Rift Valley, the lakes. There are places in our country that are so beautiful, that when you go there you cannot help but having your jaw drop. Even something as simple as the drive from Nairobi to Kisumu is an awesome experience because of the variety of scenery. Dubai has no such natural beauty. It is basically all glitz with very little true beauty underneath it. The thing that the UAE has done well is too understand that their natural resource of oil will not last forever, and hence they have invested in tourism like no other country. They have made from the desert a country that is sparkling and is fun. You can go to clubs in Dubai that play all types of music, serve all types of booze and other varieties of fun. The government has promoted the country as the playground of the Middle East. We in Kenya need something similar. The government should invest in roads and maintaining the peace and perhaps throw in a helping hand with financing the promotion of Kenya as a destination. That is really all we need of them to promote tourism. The private industry will take care of the rest.
SIMBA-
Good point!
ELDER OF BURNING SPEAR!-The Kipsigis Elder, A Mr. CHUMO who donated his 5 acres to the government for a police station to maintain peace deserves kudos.I hereby nominate him for the annual Presidential National honors.Nothing short of EBS….I’ll personally “riot” if they do the usual by awarding “useless” ministers jut coz they are in the government of the day. Does Ruto have one of these? I hope NOT!!! I bet Moi awarded him for his role in YK92.
Dee:
I will try and answer your question. I think the trick lies with Kiuk women. They work till they drop and they teach their kids from an early age about the importance of being self-reliant. I learnt the ropes from my 2 grandmothers who were the most ferocious women you ever saw. Speaking as a Kiuk, I am happiest when I am in control of my own destiny.
The other aspect is fearlessness. Kiuks again are taught that fear will hold you back. Fear will make you lose the race even before you have started. It is a sort of Kamikaze attitude that makes Kiuks formidable competitors. Another thing is that you can never really threaten a Kiuk because they will ferouciously fight back. Again, these are things that are learnt when Kiuks are still kids. The socialisation of Kiuks involves tales of courageous and clever people who rose from nothing to become heros. Kiuks do not respect dynasties. They admire self-made people.
The Kiuk philosophy is more like this – if so and so can do it, I can do it too.
Kiuks are also very good learners by the way. Like you, I am amazed at how well they are doing in some European countries. Guys with literally no education are very quietly running very successful businesses and heavily investing the profits in Kenya.
I recently visited Germany and I went to a small village deep in Bavaria and I did not expect to meet even another black face – guess who I met on the street???? A Kiuk from Ndenderu (Kiambu). He is married to a German and he has been living there for 17 years. He is now a manager in a courier/logistics company. He has several small businesses for his relas back in Kenya (Mats, Houses and Curios) and he is doing really well. I will now be soon visiting him proper for a trip to Hamburg to see what we could export to Kenya and vice versa.
Its an attitude. It just makes you smile.
Guys,
I request that you take caution for any deal that resembles Rwanda’s? Have you ever had of sovereign wealth funds? This is surplus money raised from the sale of “black gold” Oil. This funds are the latest threat to IMF and the World Bank.
The owners of this funds are heavily corrupt individuals, they can easily transform Kenya into a Nigeria; where you have dollar billionaires and masses of the poor and Raila Odinga is a culprit of this money(remember his trips to Dubai? we know who he was meeting). They also do not have enough plans or ways to invest this funds, the MONEY is just too much….in Trillions.
U.S almost run into trouble when one of the entities of this large fortune tried to invest some of it by buying the American port system and privatising it. Bush/congress had to retract the agreement.
This arab guys are sitting on mountains of cash, while the west is running broke to the ground with recession and credit crunch. someone is already salivating for this cash.
The other risk is the guys are not accountable, Do you also know something about their greatest hobby?: Carmel racing. They used to buy babies from Asian for them to be used as jockeys, until they gained too much weight or become cripples from injuries sustained during the race. Imagine a four year old falling from a carmel and being trumpled by other carmels behind!!!
They are inhumane. Tell Najib balala to shut up or else you will do something…..and Do it.
Remember the arabs never signed the anti-slavery agreement. It only affected the transatlantic slave trade and the British used Naval power to deter the arabs, But with their money they are back in business: Asian labor workers
FOR, what this Arabs are offering; Kenya is supposed to give up a piece of our land. Like Cuba with Guatanamo Bay; its owned by the US in exchange for cash for certain number of years. And there goes the sovereignty of that area. The investment is never yours, but you can come in and spend for them to recoup their funds, then by the time you get it back it will be looking like Old Mombasa island: a relic
Do you want to become Dubai and with whose money?
Can we use our own money to replicate Dubai?
Mombasa port, Pipeline and the refinery are being expanded for strategic reasons, like the development in Rwanda. Inevitably we will benefit.
JOSH-
Thanks. I hope akina PROUDKALEO can read that. My obervation was based on the fact that you can find a Kyuk almost in any part of the planet. There is even one Kyuk who is a principal of a high school in a tiny tiny Pacific Island called PONPHEI…..I mean in a middle of nowhere. I met a resident from there who told me of his “Kenyan Principal”-A Kyuk name. I wonder what motivated such a guy to fly there in first place.I don’t even think you can fly there.Now I hear Kyuks are taking over Southeran Sudan and Rwanda…Can you Kyuks please teach the rest of Kenya how to prosper.
EAGLE EYE-
You sound hateful but am glad you addressed the same point I mentioned earlier at the end of your input.Kenyan Coast is NOT a special Economic Zone(read China).
@dee
While some are being taught to be “warriors” and socialist-welfare citizens, us too get taught a thing or two from childhood as Josh put it.
Breakin’ down a Kiuk should be off the list as an option. But do I say…..
Oh by the way, I hear there is a certain Kenyan guy trying to be the leader of the most powerful nation in the world. Sorry, I can’t seem to remember his name. Chances are he is kyuk, since the other Kenyan tribes amount to nothing.
@dee
wachaa wewe..lol..what do you mean hateful? I am just putting the facts together and further more do we want to run into deals just because we wish to be like dubai? People need to be straight shooters, myself, I was taught to be a shooter.
I like KE and the way he gives it out….
Personally, I don’t mind the money, but I need to know where the boobie-traps are in the contract or MOU.
Have a great day
Matofa
That is a loser’s attitude you brought right there. Did anybody say that other tribes in Kenya amount to nothing??? Those are your own words. That is a huge inferiority complex you got right there. I guess you been telling people in your village about the evil Kiuks and all….. Get some education; real education.
Dee
I agree with EagleEye. Kenyans need to raise their capital for their own projects. The funny thing is that Kenyans have money – they really do. Did you see the Ken Gen, Ever Ready and other capitalisations last year??? Kenyans raised billions without outside finance.
All they need is a good cabinet/government that will deliver and not shaft them. That is all they need.
The potential is huge!
MATOFA-
Don’t be a HATER! I ain’t even a Kyuk but am successful. But by my own research, these guys are good. Read Rwanda or Sudan…..Kagame or Mayardit are NOT saying only Kyuks can go there but how come they are in the forefront of every deal.I mean Kales live close to Sudan.I love all Kenyans but someone once said if you give money to five different Kenyans, chances are higher in 5 years the Kyuk will have prospered farthest. Call spade a spade.Any takers or haters?
@Josh
You got it….also we need real visionary leaders and risk-takers, who we can rally behind, just like those forefather’s who designed and built todays Manhattan….They set the stage for what you see now in Dubai and other upcoming cities.
Can we transform Thika to compete with the rest and why Thika?
Thika has the Space and the topographical layout, which will help in expansion and cost cutting, also close to Nairobi and away from the Rift Valley’s geographical fault line. The area is surrounded by abandant resources i.e quary for stone and cement from the new lime discovery in Ukambani, water from Ruiru Dams and Sagana/Chania river’s, electicity and coal from Ukambani too, Food for the worker bee’s and investor’s(no need to explain that)
And why not Nairobi my home city? Nairobi is old and will cost more to redesign, we need open range/space.
Can a leader rise from the people of GOD, Do you have what it takes?
Will the people accept to see the vision?
I will die trying…..
@EagleEye
Funny you mention Thika….. It was actually meant to be a brand new industrial city.
That is the whole purpose of Thika if you didn’t know! And things were going very well for Thika until Moi took over and established his vindictive policy of “finishing” Kiuks. That is how Thika stagnated.
The blue print is still there. That is why there are so many industries in Thika. Infact I understand Michuki is planning to upgrade the Nairobi Thika highway and remove all the roundabouts to reduce travel times.
As I said, the blue print for the development of Thika into a super industrial city is still there, all the government needs is to implement it.
KE-
Who’s that minister banished from Swiss?
PROUDKALEO-You have been too quiet of late…rise to the occasion!I miss reading about you.
You can not successfully develop a nation in a lopsided way (see SA and apartheid days).
It may be true that kikuyus are generally very entrepreneurial, but You cannot ignore the fact that there has been favoritism in opportunities and availabilities of resources. Or maybe you know this but you do not care. Problem is, you eventually become wealthy but you have to fortify yourself against the hungry and angry masses. Just common sense to try to level the playing field, or at least enable the masses be be able to live relatively well (as in the USA), then you can enjoy your wealth in relative peace.
TOIYOI-
You can’t compare Kyuk situation to SA apartheid….I can’t even respond to that. But please then explain their success during Nyayo era despite state sponsored thuggery against them. Nyayo era…now that was close to apartheid…..What crime did Kyuks commit against other Kenyans?apart from they are ambitious…ambition ain’t crime!
TOIYOI I respect your view BUT please come up with a viable and intelligent explanation.
NOTE-Moi did favoritism to Kales for 24 years! and what did that achieve?
Make no mistake about what everyone in kenya has learnt: put your money where your mouth is.
Josh: the eldy people have lost nothing. You’ve just allowed space for one of the owners of ancestral land there to flourish without your unfair and favored competition. Did you not read about how ‘indigenous’ businesses there are booming? Let’s not imagine that people will be hurt by lack of kyuk investment in their ancestral lands.
Toiyoi: in the same way the RV people have and will continue to fortify themselves against the angry and hungry masses, so will Central people. To imagine any other outcome is just plain pie in the sky. Besides, kenya is a nation of nations. Let those nations develop the way they see fit. And I love the way people conveniently forget that we had 24 years of Moi’s unabashed “favoritism in opportunities and availabilities of resources”.
Cry all you want, but remember the proof of the pie is in the eating. And it’ll be one heck of a pie.
Pysd off:
I never had anything in Eldy or in RV in the first place. But I do have friends and relatives in Eldy and Nakuru and guess what – they ain’t leaving! They are staying because that is the only home they know. The talk of ancestral lands is bullcrap. If indigeneous businesses are booming that is good for them. I am happy for them. But that is also a silly argument because there will come a time when those small businesses will want to expand their markets. What happens then??? For instance, will Kalenjin owned businesses be allowed to operate beyond Nakuru?????
For instance, Mr William Ruto has a freight company, will his lorries be allowed to travel through Ukambani, Nairobi and Central??? Will his Standard Newspapers be sold in Ukambani, Central and Nairobi???
Your solution is very myopic indeed.
I have my investments in Kiambu, Nairobi and UK. And I am grateful for the opportunities in my life. The funny is thing is that I left Kenya in the mid-90s because I could not get a job as a Kiuk. I ended up doing better abroad than I could ever have done in Kenya and so have many others. Those were the days when Kales used to finish O-level and they would be appointed managers of parastatals and graduates from other communities would be jobless! Thank God those days of impunity will never come back. Perhaps some people think that this will be the case with the new government. They are very mistaken because we now want an ACCOUNTABLE AND TRANSPARENT government. Raila has promised this and he must deliver – or else he will have to go.
I have never received any favours from the government. If anything I was a victim of discrimination as a Kiuk during the Moi days. Anyway, I do not look inwards and I have no apologies for who I am. As I said, we now live in a globalised economy and there are alot of opportunities for those willing to see beyond their so-called ancestral lands.
Josh and EagleEye,
Good for mentioning Thika, I went to school there!
Because of those factories, it is actually a melting pot: kales,luos kambas , kiuks, indians…..This area showed alot of restraint and maturity during those trying weeks. I remember what nyayo did to those textiles! As you move , west of delmonte plantations to uhuru’s blue posts hotel , u’ll amazed at the beautiful farms back-to-back owned by saitoti,muite, nyachae and others.
Its just a wonderful time that nobody can contain this information flow, not even communist china.
@DEE
Fact: Kenyatta showed favoritism to kyuks
Fact: Moi showed favoritism to kaleos
That kyuks prospered during Nyayo days; True. How could they not, they already had the momentum from before and all the advantages.
Fact: Kibaki over did Both Kenyatta and Moi ( kind of making for lost time, i suppose )
If you are denying this, then i have no other argument.
Really, those with long term thinking should be embracing (in the very least a very strong federal system ) the separation of of the many nations of Kenya. Anybody who defends a united Kenya (98% of kyuks) is a beneficiary of the current bad system or (the others) are just plain short-sighted and with no historical learning.
Indeed all African countries need to divide themselves further!!
how did the kenya-dubai discussion become a kikuyu-kenya affair?
or are the kikuyu somehow linked to turning the country into some sort of dubai?
KE;
we’ve alot more going for us than dubai, geographically and in terms of human resource, but all our advantages are cancelled out by the type of politics we chose to practice.
TOIYOI
Your thoughts are very dangerous, but just as the sermon from Bishop T.D. Jakes said – whover calls for the division of kenya is not kenya’s friend.
You sound like a sore loser with that kibaki favored kyuks like moi + kenyatta combined.
With that of attitide, you’ll always be complaining and have a looser mentality, loosers whine and complain, real mean get things done.
For your information there are some very progressive kaelos in the government right/parastatals right now, yaani real men, not timid cowards who kepe complaining. An example is Julius Kipng’etich, the KWS director. This guy has done an impressive job at turning KWS around and rakung in kshs 2billion profits which is unheard of, hata siku za wazungu kina Leakey, Dr David western.
If all kaleos could emulate this guy instead of chest thumping coz sijui they raided their pokot neighbors cows and got away with it…then they’d be far by now. lakini this thing of living in the 19th century mentality lazima muache kabisa!
If kenay were to be majombolized, the real beneficiary would be nairobi- Nairobi would no longer have all those slums from people moving from rurarl areas to urban areas, plus the fact that nairobi accounts for 60% of kenya’s GDP.
@Mzeiya
I think long term ( 200+ years ahead) you think short term (50 years and how much you can get from it).
I am a true friend of kenya, you are a friend of only yourself. I care for the masses who are paupers ( when they do not have to be ), you are for you, and yourself only.
I believe that people should make wealth, but it should be done in a honorable and acceptable way, but you believe that wealth should be made in any way possible, even if it means riding on the back of others.
I consider that Africa has been impoverished since their “independence” (50 years and counting), because they have tolerated the likes of Kenyatta, Moi, Mwai, Mobutu. Mugabe, who are left to get away with massive corruption, while playing the tribal card ( you know, as long as the likes of you make your millions, and the M’s make their billions, you support them, not realizing that if things were done right, you too could make your 100 millions, and the paupers would make their thousands, so everybody would be generally happy, and then you would have nothing to fear in enjoying your well gotten wealth )
My friend, i think long term, you think short term. A wise man once said, a “house divided against itself can not stand”. Africa is at war with itself, because it is a house divided against itself. We need leaders who can think out of the box and do not fear to come up with up long lasting solutions, such as diving Kenya into its natural Nations. Then there will be true unity based on agreements. Is this so hard to see?
KE: If we are posting in the wrong topic, jut move the comments over to the right place.
TOIYOI,
So basically, ur argument is that to think “long term” we should advocate majimbo and divide kenya into separate nations ?
KE
Please come up with another topic for discussion. I hope it will be a genuine exercise of our mental faculties not degenerate into a vacuous discussion on tribe.
Everybody got what they wanted – Kibaki is still prezzy, Raila is the PM and the IDPs will go back to their homes.
Lets move on please.
@Mzeiya
Read my blogif you care for details of what i am advocating….
@Josh
is that all there was to it? Prezy and PM and going back to normal life?. Is that the end of the problem, really? Just bury it, and forget (you know the “forgive and forget mantra” ). Should the IDP just forget what just happened ( Lost property ,lost family, lost trust)
@mzeiya
looks like kyuk arrogance will never end.anywayz with the new power sharing deal your political and economic dominance has been finally tamed. First on the agenda should be passing an affirmative action law, to be followed by massive layoffs in central bank, safaricom, KRA, judiciary etc.. By the way i hope hon RUTO gets the internal security ministry, what say u mzeiya….
proudkaleo:
You have left me speechless at the thought of Ruto getting internal security. I can’t even, even, even…..grrrrrrrr
PROUD KALEO…
Where have u been ? it aint arrogance, it’s confidence daddi..
ati the economic dominance will be tamed….chief, ur dreaming, wake up, seriously!
My broda ( as a naija would say ), Between now and the next couple of years, you are gong to see the emrgence of real bsuinessmen like you’ve never seen before, both indians, kyuks, luo’s etc, whoever has good business acumen.
In the days when you guys ahd power , siku za Moi, Kales had every advantage, and now they’re crying. why were you not calling for affirmative action when Kip’s and Cheps infront of your name meant automatic hire in any government department ?
My friend, you just seem to have a hate for kyuks for whatever reason.If they are successful, why not try emulate them? you may learn something.
but besides politicking, coz we’ll never agree, what are your thoughts on the variuos sectors of the kenyan economy ? no politicking, just relevant business answers…
@mzeiya
i personally have no grudge with kyuks(just some of ua leaders arrogance), as a matter of fact my apartments in naks and nai are managed by kyuks.. as for business am staying away from kenya for awhile.. i bought equity bank stocks in 07, do u have any business ideas???
proudkaleo;
you actually own stocks and invest in real estate? what is this you have going, a split-personality thing or something? on one hand you hold up the practice of burning,looting and murder and on the other you claim to be a stockexchange operator with capital invested in the country? get real!
PROUD KAELO
I Posted a lengthy reply yesterday of what I saw as opportunities in kenya but for some reason I can’t see it……I’ll try posting again
DO not let the Arabs turn the island of Lamu or any Kenyan or African natural sovereign place into their colony. These are the new colonialists in every sense of the word. The most important thing more than money is land and sovereignty. The gov’t of Kenya (Lamu) has no right to sell any part of kenya to a foreign entity. Kenya can develop its own land and more importantly keep it prestene and natural, because that is the real beauty. Do not under any circumstance let that deal with Kuwait to lease the island of Lamu go through! There should be a revolution.
Do not invest in Tameer’s projects as they put Al Salam City on the hold and there are strong indication that it will be cancelled all together after their time buying exercise of lies and blaming the UAQ (part of UAE) government and frustrating Al Salam’s customers/investors will be over. For more information on this and to sign a petition, please visit http://WWW.ALSALAMCITY.BIZ.
Tameer: The art of failing!!
I hate the way a good discussion on investment has turned into a Kyuk Kaleo Kibaki Raila thing.
As I drove through Kericho on my way to Kisumu last weekend, I stopped at Chepseon, near Kericho to buy some potatoes to take to my relas at home. The ladies selling told me that business was up 100% coz of the road. In 100 days since the coalition gava was formed, almost all potholes (80%) between Mau Summit and Kisumu have been filled and people are driving again. Infact between Mau Summit and Kericho, there;s even a new layer on top of the fixed potholes. Yaani, its nywee like you haven’t seen in years. I was grateful for a while coz being a business advisor, this is the kind of news I like to hear and maybe seek to understand the real impact on the region and maybe tap into it. My joy got flashed away in a second when the women said that if they hadn’t kicked ass, this wouldn’t have happened.
Kyuks may have been targeted, but Kenyans have become losers and will pay a heavy price for a long time. If this is the mentality that a generation is going to grow up proud of, then we are in for rough times ahead.
Not so much coz of Kaleo youth, but rather coz its likely that this is representative of the thinking of many other Kenyans where real development and change will now be seen, coming from the coalition gava.
How else can you explain to them that development was going to come to them except through fire and blood?
The ordinary Kyuk was not the problem; it was at most, 10 tribal chiefs very close to Kibaki. And it was about the same in the previous regimes.
Lets try to be what we know we ought to be focus on how we can do real business, promote real investment, build real, partnerships across tribes and regions and build a strong country. Lets stay focused on the things that build otherwise we all loose.
Enjoy
I have one question for all Kenyans abroad.
Would change come from toiling, hiding, complaining from afar, struggling and refusing to make sacrifices to go back home and help develop, sustain and grow your country?