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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is this obsession with Kenyatta&#039;s land?

I have these visions of CT as a wild eyed native on a land grabbing spree with a spear and bow and arrow in hand - searching for the Kenyattas. :lol: 

Utter waste of time.

On a serious note, we have digressed from the topic.  And I propose that we get back to the topic at hand.

KE

I think the low level of IT development and market penetration in Kenya is probably what makes the Kenyan dailies engage in the ineffective strategy of charging for internet access.

If there was internet market saturation in the general population, perhaps it would then make business sense for them to rely solely on advertising.  This may change with the completion of the optic fibre project.  Hopefully this will help in widening acces to the internet for the rural people where 70% of Kenyans still live.</description>
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<p>What is this obsession with Kenyatta&#8217;s land?</p>
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<p>I have these visions of CT as a wild eyed native on a land grabbing spree with a spear and bow and arrow in hand &#8211; searching for the Kenyattas. <img src='http://www.kenyanentrepreneur.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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<p>Utter waste of time.</p>
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<p>On a serious note, we have digressed from the topic.  And I propose that we get back to the topic at hand.</p>
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<p>KE</p>
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<p>I think the low level of IT development and market penetration in Kenya is probably what makes the Kenyan dailies engage in the ineffective strategy of charging for internet access.</p>
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<p>If there was internet market saturation in the general population, perhaps it would then make business sense for them to rely solely on advertising.  This may change with the completion of the optic fibre project.  Hopefully this will help in widening acces to the internet for the rural people where 70% of Kenyans still live.
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		<title>By: Murigi Wa Mwangi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Murigi Wa Mwangi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kenyan Dailies Still Don’t Get it!!!
English is quite a simple language stick to what KE is talking about. Some of us read the articles even though some are wrong its still the best publication in terms of business in Kenya. The issue was not who stole what... Stick to the point its not a political thread..</description>
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<p>Kenyan Dailies Still Don’t Get it!!!<br />
English is quite a simple language stick to what KE is talking about. Some of us read the articles even though some are wrong its still the best publication in terms of business in Kenya. The issue was not who stole what&#8230; Stick to the point its not a political thread..
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		<title>By: Coldtusker</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mzeiya:

1) what is wrong with re-claiming the stolen land? The gains are much better than the cost.

2) the land could be given to industries, agro-processing and tourism... the kenyatta stole huge chunks of prime land in Nyali ripe for developing tourism related stuff.

3) Go after moi as well.

4) Show that theft is wrong. And no matter when... we will strive to get it back.

5) What were the clashes in 2008 about? Land...? And not land in Nairobi but AGRICULTURAL land.

According to Rostow -  as lord says - we are pre-industrial i.e. primarily agrarian</description>
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<p>mzeiya:</p>
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<p>1) what is wrong with re-claiming the stolen land? The gains are much better than the cost.</p>
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<p>2) the land could be given to industries, agro-processing and tourism&#8230; the kenyatta stole huge chunks of prime land in Nyali ripe for developing tourism related stuff.</p>
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<p>3) Go after moi as well.</p>
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<p>4) Show that theft is wrong. And no matter when&#8230; we will strive to get it back.</p>
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<p>5) What were the clashes in 2008 about? Land&#8230;? And not land in Nairobi but AGRICULTURAL land.</p>
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<p>According to Rostow &#8211;  as lord says &#8211; we are pre-industrial i.e. primarily agrarian
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		<title>By: Lord</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#Mzeiya

To be precise its the KNOWLEDGE AGE elswhere....Kenya... its still PRE aggrarain ...CT got some point</description>
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<p>#Mzeiya</p>
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<p>To be precise its the KNOWLEDGE AGE elswhere&#8230;.Kenya&#8230; its still PRE aggrarain &#8230;CT got some point
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		<title>By: mzeiya</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>COLD TUSKER,

Why are you always hung up by the idea of &quot;let&#039;s reclaim the land kenyatta stole&quot;

Honestly dude, GET OVER IT! Why so bent over agrarian issues?

this is the 21st century daddi,it&#039;s the industrial age not agrarian</description>
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<p>COLD TUSKER,</p>
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<p>Why are you always hung up by the idea of &#8220;let&#8217;s reclaim the land kenyatta stole&#8221;</p>
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<p>Honestly dude, GET OVER IT! Why so bent over agrarian issues?</p>
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<p>this is the 21st century daddi,it&#8217;s the industrial age not agrarian
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		<title>By: lord</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kei O

If the media is endengering security of a people or a nation then FOR HEAVEN&#039;s SAKE the Gov should shut it down...thats the government job  


SELF CENCORSHIP is desirable but NOT MANDATORY....So it still rest on the government to regulate the content of the media...any other way is abdication of duty....

PATRIOTISM is not preached . ITS EARNED by a goverment....IF Western media are patriotic that means they love thier countries....for any reason...say justice,equity,democrazy,glorious past,succor to the poor,achievements,culture,language,science,technology,sports,art and so on.

To me PATRIOTISM is a DIVIDENT of  sum of glorious histories of ANY NATION.

 OUR nation is founded on colonialism,inequity,corruption,tribalism, no past of significance( Came into being &#039;63)  HENCE IT CANNOT REAP  benefits now..


That does NOT MEAN we can NOT IMPROVE...THIS IS now the NICHE of a great leader to stick up and be great..then our nation will be great..then our people will have that religious feeling when talking of KENYA.. The way a Maasai would feel now by saying I AM A MAASAI.


MAKING a daily to fill  &#039;RESPONSIBILITY GAP&quot; is not a prudent bussiness idea now .....for Believe or Not such a paper will not get AUDIENCE now for our social indcators are very bad.....</description>
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<p>Kei O</p>
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<p>If the media is endengering security of a people or a nation then FOR HEAVEN&#8217;s SAKE the Gov should shut it down&#8230;thats the government job  </p>
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<p>SELF CENCORSHIP is desirable but NOT MANDATORY&#8230;.So it still rest on the government to regulate the content of the media&#8230;any other way is abdication of duty&#8230;.</p>
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<p>PATRIOTISM is not preached . ITS EARNED by a goverment&#8230;.IF Western media are patriotic that means they love thier countries&#8230;.for any reason&#8230;say justice,equity,democrazy,glorious past,succor to the poor,achievements,culture,language,science,technology,sports,art and so on.</p>
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<p>To me PATRIOTISM is a DIVIDENT of  sum of glorious histories of ANY NATION.</p>
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<p> OUR nation is founded on colonialism,inequity,corruption,tribalism, no past of significance( Came into being &#8216;63)  HENCE IT CANNOT REAP  benefits now..</p>
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<p>That does NOT MEAN we can NOT IMPROVE&#8230;THIS IS now the NICHE of a great leader to stick up and be great..then our nation will be great..then our people will have that religious feeling when talking of KENYA.. The way a Maasai would feel now by saying I AM A MAASAI.</p>
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<p>MAKING a daily to fill  &#8216;RESPONSIBILITY GAP&#8221; is not a prudent bussiness idea now &#8230;..for Believe or Not such a paper will not get AUDIENCE now for our social indcators are very bad&#8230;..
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		<title>By: Kei O</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lord

I agree that the objective of private companies is to make money but one of the main responsibilities of a government is to provide security for the citizens.  If the media are endangering that security through irresponsible reporting, then I would say they should be shut down.

You still haven&#039;t responded to my assertion that the media in Kenya need self-censorship.

I am not interested in launching a Daily - am doing just fine thank you very much.</description>
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<p>I agree that the objective of private companies is to make money but one of the main responsibilities of a government is to provide security for the citizens.  If the media are endangering that security through irresponsible reporting, then I would say they should be shut down.</p>
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<p>You still haven&#8217;t responded to my assertion that the media in Kenya need self-censorship.</p>
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<p>I am not interested in launching a Daily &#8211; am doing just fine thank you very much.
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		<title>By: lord</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KEI O

The AIM of all private companies is to MAKE money NOT  chaperon or Nanny the State

NATION,Standard Number ONE aim is to make money through &#039;informing the people. &#039; Any thing else is secondary....SO You can NOT advice any paper to go for long or short term gain ...Wether They choose any is their own SHAURI

IF the Press IS MEDIOCRE then thats GREAT NEWS for any enterpreneur  for their is a NICHE to offer something BETTER....LAUNCH YOUR DAILY!!!</description>
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<p>KEI O</p>
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<p>The AIM of all private companies is to MAKE money NOT  chaperon or Nanny the State</p>
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<p>NATION,Standard Number ONE aim is to make money through &#8216;informing the people. &#8216; Any thing else is secondary&#8230;.SO You can NOT advice any paper to go for long or short term gain &#8230;Wether They choose any is their own SHAURI</p>
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<p>IF the Press IS MEDIOCRE then thats GREAT NEWS for any enterpreneur  for their is a NICHE to offer something BETTER&#8230;.LAUNCH YOUR DAILY!!!
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		<title>By: Kei O</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coldtusker

Dispossessing the Kenyattas of the land that they &quot;stole&quot; is not going to solve anything.  Infact, that is a pipe dream.  You better just forget it and move on with your life my friend.  You will hit a brickwall with your head and collapse my friend.

You must remember that the Kenyattas are not the only big landowners in Kenya.  There are many others who own big tracts of land, including transnational companies and the government. So it would be quite myopic to focus on one family.  Besides, this would create such chaos that it would take Kenya back to the medieval somalia-like times.

As a young person (I am assuming you are), what you should be doing right now is thinking of how you can contribute to your country.  It is tragic when relatively young people like you fall into the &quot;bitter beggar&quot; mode where they expect that the government will provide for them.  It is a sad state of affairs.

The role of the government should be to ensure that the infrastructure is in place for the wananchi to thrive.  It should also intervene with social programmes for vulnerable people.  That is all.

But to come back to the topic - my position is still that the Kenyan media have lopsided priorities.  They put short-term profits ahead of their country.  

I will be harsh on this occasion and say that the Kenyan media is MEDIOCRE.</description>
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<p>Dispossessing the Kenyattas of the land that they &#8220;stole&#8221; is not going to solve anything.  Infact, that is a pipe dream.  You better just forget it and move on with your life my friend.  You will hit a brickwall with your head and collapse my friend.</p>
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<p>You must remember that the Kenyattas are not the only big landowners in Kenya.  There are many others who own big tracts of land, including transnational companies and the government. So it would be quite myopic to focus on one family.  Besides, this would create such chaos that it would take Kenya back to the medieval somalia-like times.</p>
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<p>As a young person (I am assuming you are), what you should be doing right now is thinking of how you can contribute to your country.  It is tragic when relatively young people like you fall into the &#8220;bitter beggar&#8221; mode where they expect that the government will provide for them.  It is a sad state of affairs.</p>
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<p>The role of the government should be to ensure that the infrastructure is in place for the wananchi to thrive.  It should also intervene with social programmes for vulnerable people.  That is all.</p>
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<p>But to come back to the topic &#8211; my position is still that the Kenyan media have lopsided priorities.  They put short-term profits ahead of their country.  </p>
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<p>I will be harsh on this occasion and say that the Kenyan media is MEDIOCRE.
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