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		<title>By: Kei O</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merry Xmas and Prosperous New Year to you All.

At least there are no elections this year - and hence no pre or post election violence.</description>
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<p>Merry Xmas and Prosperous New Year to you All.</p>
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<p>At least there are no elections this year &#8211; and hence no pre or post election violence.
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		<title>By: Lord</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh

Language does NOT give homogenuity...Hutus and Tustsis are diferent people (ethnically)

Tustsis Lost their Nilotic Language Long ago to Bantu Kinyarwanda......But they did NOT loose their difference


Its just like KENYA...Even if you succedded in wiping ethnic languages and use Kiswahili ...Kalenjins will still be ethnically diferent from Kikuyu or Luo or Somali or Indians

Have a great new year


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<p>Josh</p>
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<p>Language does NOT give homogenuity&#8230;Hutus and Tustsis are diferent people (ethnically)</p>
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<p>Tustsis Lost their Nilotic Language Long ago to Bantu Kinyarwanda&#8230;&#8230;But they did NOT loose their difference</p>
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<p>Its just like KENYA&#8230;Even if you succedded in wiping ethnic languages and use Kiswahili &#8230;Kalenjins will still be ethnically diferent from Kikuyu or Luo or Somali or Indians</p>
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<p>Have a great new year</p>
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<p>KE</p>
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<p>Yes you are right ..The violence is ONLY between different groups&#8230;.NOT between same groups&#8230;..
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		<title>By: kenyanentrepreneur</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 19:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about India a very homogeneous country.  I believe it&#039;s 80% Hindu and it is a devolved country, but look at it&#039;s continuous years of violence.

Even after Pakistan became it&#039;s own country, India is still battling with violent riots between Hindus and muslims, sikhs and muslims, christians and muslims, etc, etc. etc. 

Good point on Rwanda and Burundi and may I add somalia here (same language, same religion.. and look at that mess of a country)

And I will maintain my argument on America.  George washington was not running a union of states.  The civil war, while initially about slavery, did in fact bring the country together (in the end) -- before that war, the country was pretty fractured.

And you failed to address the point I raised about the supremacy of federal law in america.  The states have no power against the federal government.  Why? because if there is ever a conflict between state law and federal law, the federal law will automatically predominate.

merry x-mass to you too.</description>
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<p>How about India a very homogeneous country.  I believe it&#8217;s 80% Hindu and it is a devolved country, but look at it&#8217;s continuous years of violence.</p>
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<p>Even after Pakistan became it&#8217;s own country, India is still battling with violent riots between Hindus and muslims, sikhs and muslims, christians and muslims, etc, etc. etc. </p>
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<p>Good point on Rwanda and Burundi and may I add somalia here (same language, same religion.. and look at that mess of a country)</p>
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<p>And I will maintain my argument on America.  George washington was not running a union of states.  The civil war, while initially about slavery, did in fact bring the country together (in the end) &#8212; before that war, the country was pretty fractured.</p>
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<p>And you failed to address the point I raised about the supremacy of federal law in america.  The states have no power against the federal government.  Why? because if there is ever a conflict between state law and federal law, the federal law will automatically predominate.</p>
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<p>merry x-mass to you too.
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lord

Tutsis and Hutus speak the same language.  It is a Bantu language.  In Rwanda it is known as Kinyarwanda and in Burundi it is known as Kirundi.  The only differences are in physical attributes.

Infact, Rwanda and Burundi are more homogeneous than Kenya.

Pls do your research properly.</description>
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<p>Lord</p>
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<p>Tutsis and Hutus speak the same language.  It is a Bantu language.  In Rwanda it is known as Kinyarwanda and in Burundi it is known as Kirundi.  The only differences are in physical attributes.</p>
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<p>Infact, Rwanda and Burundi are more homogeneous than Kenya.</p>
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<p>Pls do your research properly.
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		<title>By: Lord</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey KE


This is SAD! You can NOT fudge facts... You seem to have NO IDEA of TIMELINES of US History...The information is Free

Start with George Washington...Fisrt US president..He was running a Federal Country (UNION OF STATES)....Other states Kept Joining......over hundreds of Years.....


It was ALWAYS DEVOLVED from time ZERO


The war between confederates and the unionist was NOT ABOUT devolution ...It was about SLAVERY...ALL AGREED ON THE NEED TO DEVOLVE


USA is NOT A CENTRALISED REPUBLIC LIKE KENYA

BUT A FEDERAL REPUBLIC STATES

The DEVOLUTION is in the STATE governtments.....  


SIZE

Second you should KNOW that DEVOLUTION is NOT about size BUT about PEOPLE....IF PEOPLE ARE Homogeneous there is NO NEED TO DEVOLVE....
Switzerland  is smaller than CENTRAL PROVINCE but devolved int FIVE states for
Germans,French,Italians...other ethnicities....


I TAKE THIS TIME to wish you a happy X MASS and GREAT NEW YERA !!!! :grin:</description>
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<p>Hey KE</p>
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<p>This is SAD! You can NOT fudge facts&#8230; You seem to have NO IDEA of TIMELINES of US History&#8230;The information is Free</p>
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<p>Start with George Washington&#8230;Fisrt US president..He was running a Federal Country (UNION OF STATES)&#8230;.Other states Kept Joining&#8230;&#8230;over hundreds of Years&#8230;..</p>
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<p>It was ALWAYS DEVOLVED from time ZERO</p>
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<p>The war between confederates and the unionist was NOT ABOUT devolution &#8230;It was about SLAVERY&#8230;ALL AGREED ON THE NEED TO DEVOLVE</p>
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<p>USA is NOT A CENTRALISED REPUBLIC LIKE KENYA</p>
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<p>BUT A FEDERAL REPUBLIC STATES</p>
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<p>The DEVOLUTION is in the STATE governtments&#8230;..  </p>
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<p>SIZE</p>
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<p>Second you should KNOW that DEVOLUTION is NOT about size BUT about PEOPLE&#8230;.IF PEOPLE ARE Homogeneous there is NO NEED TO DEVOLVE&#8230;.<br />
Switzerland  is smaller than CENTRAL PROVINCE but devolved int FIVE states for<br />
Germans,French,Italians&#8230;other ethnicities&#8230;.</p>
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<p>I TAKE THIS TIME to wish you a happy X MASS and GREAT NEW YERA !!!! <img src='http://www.kenyanentrepreneur.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':grin:' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: kenyanentrepreneur</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lord:

America did not devolve from day zero.  They had a civil war.  Remember that? the south tried to secede because they wanted to maintain slavery and the northerners said nope --  We are going to remain ONE country and they fought that war and the northerners won and that is how we now have the UNITED &quot;states&quot; of America (emphasis on the word &quot;united&quot;).

I think you are confusing what devolultion means in America.  It is one country with a central government based in Washington D.C. and with federal laws that govern the WHOLE country and with a supreme court whose laws apply to the WHOLE country.

And everyone has to pay taxes to the federal government and the IRS, the tax collection agency is a federal entity with federal subpoena power.

Kenya is the size of Texas.  It shouldn&#039;t be that difficult to manage.</description>
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<p>America did not devolve from day zero.  They had a civil war.  Remember that? the south tried to secede because they wanted to maintain slavery and the northerners said nope &#8212;  We are going to remain ONE country and they fought that war and the northerners won and that is how we now have the UNITED &#8220;states&#8221; of America (emphasis on the word &#8220;united&#8221;).</p>
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<p>I think you are confusing what devolultion means in America.  It is one country with a central government based in Washington D.C. and with federal laws that govern the WHOLE country and with a supreme court whose laws apply to the WHOLE country.</p>
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<p>And everyone has to pay taxes to the federal government and the IRS, the tax collection agency is a federal entity with federal subpoena power.</p>
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<p>Kenya is the size of Texas.  It shouldn&#8217;t be that difficult to manage.
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lord</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KE

You seem to think Countries DEVOLVE after they are already rich.....AMERICA was devolved from DAY ZERO.....and thats what created the Wealth......

Why do think Kenyan politicians are stealing? ..ONLY beacuse they are far off in NRB where the people canNNOT audit them....Devolution would bring them closer to the subjects and stealing would be much harder


SECOND

If you steal in NRB and you are caught (Kimunya) you appeal to your tribe......If you stole in a devolved system you have NO WHERE to appael to!!!

ANY WAY

You cannot even explan why TOP 50 countries are predominatly devolved or Homogeneous WHILE BOTTOM 50 countries are CENTRALISED and DIVERSE

and top 50 were always devolved before they made their wealth......</description>
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<p>You seem to think Countries DEVOLVE after they are already rich&#8230;..AMERICA was devolved from DAY ZERO&#8230;..and thats what created the Wealth&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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<p>Why do think Kenyan politicians are stealing? ..ONLY beacuse they are far off in NRB where the people canNNOT audit them&#8230;.Devolution would bring them closer to the subjects and stealing would be much harder</p>
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<p>SECOND</p>
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<p>If you steal in NRB and you are caught (Kimunya) you appeal to your tribe&#8230;&#8230;If you stole in a devolved system you have NO WHERE to appael to!!!</p>
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<p>ANY WAY</p>
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<p>You cannot even explan why TOP 50 countries are predominatly devolved or Homogeneous WHILE BOTTOM 50 countries are CENTRALISED and DIVERSE</p>
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<p>and top 50 were always devolved before they made their wealth&#8230;&#8230;
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		<title>By: KE</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lord:

Your argument on devolution is wrong on so many counts.  The advocates of devolution incorrectly believe, that if the resources of a particular community are kept within that community, they will actually be used for the benefit of that community, without the central government, first getting to and stealing the money.

However, in a country like Kenya, where the rule of law is so weak, devolution would simply mean that the stealing would now be done by far more people than is presently happening.  In fact, I think it would be much worse because who would be able to keep track of all the &quot;resources&quot;? Devolution does not resolve an inherently weak rule of law system.

And do not compare the federal system in a country like America to one that may exist in Kenya.  America is a much larger and far richer country. In fact, if the state of california was it&#039;s own country, it would be the 5th largest economy in the world.  The stability of the federal system in America has come through it&#039;s wealth creation. However, remember that there is still a federal government, whose power and laws, trump those of any state government.  

Anyway, I think it&#039;s important for African countries to create a sense of nationhood: one country, one people; And if the rule of law existed, you wouldn&#039;t have these disparities in wealth that we now see in Kenya.  Those disparities exist because politicians are stealing and getting away with it.  If there was a semblance of law, the central government would be able to use it&#039;s resources for the benefit of the whole country and for all it&#039;s citizens, but without the rule of law, this will never happen. 

You need to create a national economy.  We can&#039;t keep having these &quot;tribal economic zones&quot;.  That&#039;s crazy.

And Josh is right.  Ethiopia is a total police state.  Do you know you can&#039;t even own land in Ethiopia? Zenawi controls that economy, so that, if you go against him, he can simply take your land and anything else away from you.  No wonder, in the 15 years his been in power, that economy has pretty much failed to take off. He likes to blame dissidents, but it&#039;s his wrong headed economic policies.  Then of course, add on to this, an ill advised invasion of Somalia where Ethiopian troops are now in trouble.</description>
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<p>Your argument on devolution is wrong on so many counts.  The advocates of devolution incorrectly believe, that if the resources of a particular community are kept within that community, they will actually be used for the benefit of that community, without the central government, first getting to and stealing the money.</p>
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<p>However, in a country like Kenya, where the rule of law is so weak, devolution would simply mean that the stealing would now be done by far more people than is presently happening.  In fact, I think it would be much worse because who would be able to keep track of all the &#8220;resources&#8221;? Devolution does not resolve an inherently weak rule of law system.</p>
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<p>And do not compare the federal system in a country like America to one that may exist in Kenya.  America is a much larger and far richer country. In fact, if the state of california was it&#8217;s own country, it would be the 5th largest economy in the world.  The stability of the federal system in America has come through it&#8217;s wealth creation. However, remember that there is still a federal government, whose power and laws, trump those of any state government.  </p>
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<p>Anyway, I think it&#8217;s important for African countries to create a sense of nationhood: one country, one people; And if the rule of law existed, you wouldn&#8217;t have these disparities in wealth that we now see in Kenya.  Those disparities exist because politicians are stealing and getting away with it.  If there was a semblance of law, the central government would be able to use it&#8217;s resources for the benefit of the whole country and for all it&#8217;s citizens, but without the rule of law, this will never happen. </p>
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<p>You need to create a national economy.  We can&#8217;t keep having these &#8220;tribal economic zones&#8221;.  That&#8217;s crazy.</p>
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<p>And Josh is right.  Ethiopia is a total police state.  Do you know you can&#8217;t even own land in Ethiopia? Zenawi controls that economy, so that, if you go against him, he can simply take your land and anything else away from you.  No wonder, in the 15 years his been in power, that economy has pretty much failed to take off. He likes to blame dissidents, but it&#8217;s his wrong headed economic policies.  Then of course, add on to this, an ill advised invasion of Somalia where Ethiopian troops are now in trouble.
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